Vkguptan
Retired Person

The Italian Marines allegedly shot from the ship Enrica Lexie and killed two Indian fishermen mistaking them for pirates. The ship was not chartered for the purpose of the crime. Has the ship any bearing on the commission of the crime? Why it is stipulated in the assurance that it should be presented before legal authorities if they demand so? If someone shoots from a train and kills someone on the side of the track is the train to be present for the trial. In Chennai a retired army person shot through the window of his flat and killed a boy. The person who killed has been found guilty of murder and sentenced for life. During the trial I don\'t think that the place from which the shots were fired was of any importance. So why in the case of Enrica Lexie the ship may be required for the trial? It is just curiosity of mine?
4th May 2012 From United States , New York
You need to go through the marine laws mr. Guptan. But, for your consideration, here's the brief explanation.

Yes, the ship has to be produced before the court for its verification. This differ gross from the illustrations of public transportation means you have mentioned.

You need to observe the facts you have mentioned : "Italian Marines allegedly shot from the ship Enrica Lexie and killed two Indian fishermen mistaking them for pirates."

And not the word "ALLEGEDLY". It shows that the Pirates used to use the Ship with that name or from that company ships are mostly used for piracy. That means there are complaints of instances where The ship with that name has got a link with piracy.

We call it "usual suspects" .

Just like u might have observed in criminal laws, if any such incidents takes place the first enquiry goes with the usual suspects named under the list.

In the present case, the time of incident is also important, like during dusk, or during night times it is very difficult to identify the faces of the people inside the ship unlike on road transportation.

There are lot of issues involved in this case, calls for verifications and scrutiny. has to be keenly observed. not just the present case taken in to consideration, but the previous incidents and its links......

I think this would suffice your curiosity.......
5th May 2012 From India , Bangalore
Mr.BSSV, to tell you frankly I could not make head or tail of what you told. It must be due to my utter ignorance of the marine law or for that matter any law at all. Please do not try to explain further as it will be a waste of your precious time and my not very precious time.
Incidentally I used the word 'allegedly' because the crime has not been proved yet. Till it is proved the marines are only alleged killers. And just asking out of curiosity. If some murder or such crime is committed on a ship, is it a practice to call the ship to the court?
6th May 2012 From United States , New York
That is okay. It is always a good practice and appreciated when you try to clear your doubts. you may not know the law, that is secondary but I appreciate for your curiosity to know, if it's genuine.
And YES. Upon the request of the other parties to the case, or by court by itself, can have look at the ship. Bringing the ship to the court premises irrespective of its size and accessibility, if you think so, I can only laugh at it. The respected judge can go to the shipment to have a look at that ship..........
I have avoided using the legal language to the most, and still you could not understand the gist of it, then I am surprised!! I can say you have not paid attention to it to understand (read it with interest, you will understand for sure)...........
Anyway, thanks for your concern about me.........
Good luck.........
6th May 2012 From India , Bangalore
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